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The role of modern dance in the cultural life of Yekaterinburg

The program is led by Svetlana Tolmacheva. Lev Shulman, director of the Yekaterinburg Center for Contemporary Art, takes part in the program.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: 10th anniversary of the contemporary dance school at the Yekaterinburg Center for Contemporary Art. This summer, the first graduation will take place at the Faculty of Contemporary Dance of the Humanitarian University - this is the only faculty in Russia where this art form is taught professionally. In Yekaterinburg itself, there are several professional groups known not only in the Urals - these are Provincial Dances and Kipling, and this list can be continued.

On the eve of International Dance Day, which is celebrated on 29April, we invited Lev Shulman, director of the Yekaterinburg Center for Contemporary Art, to our studio to talk about what contributes to the development of modern dance in Yekaterinburg and in Russia, and what, on the contrary, does not.

Hello, Lev Vladimirovich.

Lev Shulman: Good morning.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: We will talk about modern dance. Maybe not all listeners of Radio Liberty understand something specific, something defined by this term. We will pronounce it repeatedly, so please, give your definition.

Lev Shulman: Modern dance has nothing to do with what is club dance, show dance, variety dance and so on. That is, these are not modern dances, but modern dance is one of the types of choreographic art. That is, what was once what was called "dance-modern", then it began to be called, grew into "dance-postmodern", then "post-postmodern". And when everyone was already tired of adding this “post-”, they decided that it would be called “contemporary dance” (“modern dance”).

Svetlana Tolmacheva: Probably only you, Lev Vladimirovich, can objectively answer the question: is Yekaterinburg really the capital of modern dance in Russia? - which is often said in Yekaterinburg itself, and guests who come here from Moscow, probably in order to please the locals, talk about this. Or is Yekaterinburg really ahead of all of Russia?

Lev Shulman: You see, I, as a person who, in general, started all this here at one time, would, of course, be pleased if this were so. That is, if Yekaterinburg was actually today the main center of Russian modern dance. But, unfortunately, this is more of a myth. Because for more than 15 years, since all this has been developing, taking place, in particular in Yekaterinburg, the main thing has not worked out - the infrastructure has not developed. That is, everything happened at some disparate points and through the efforts of some crazy enthusiasts, it still continues. Without the creation of infrastructure, without some serious budget financing, without building chains in the education of serious ones, all this is meaningless. And we simply amuse our pride, engage in self-stroking when we say: “Well, yes, we are so wonderful here. We have, look, how many things.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: Speaking of Moscow, has the infrastructure you are talking about built there?

Lev Shulman: No, this is not in any city in Russia.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: Last year, in Yekaterinburg, the issue of creating a certain Center for Contemporary Art with budget money, with the money of the Department of Culture, was actively discussed. Some futuristic projects. Even someone saw the General Plan of Yekaterinburg, where the site for the Center for Contemporary Art has already been marked out. Did you have to participate in the discussion of this project? And does modern dance have any role to play there?

Lev Shulman: According to the people who are starting this... however, now in their projects it is not called the "Yekaterinburg Center for Contemporary Art", because they simply do not have the opportunity to create another Yekaterinburg Center for Contemporary Art , because the Yekaterinburg Center for Contemporary Art has been operating in Yekaterinburg for the 13th year, with a registered trademark, and so on. That is, the name is registered as a trademark. And so they came up with a more dashing name - "Eurasian Center for Contemporary Art." And if we consider that Eurasia is a continent, that is, it turns out that Yekaterinburg has a continental Center for Contemporary Art, and it would be more logical to take the next step - intercontinental, and then - intergalactic, and so on. That is, in my opinion, this is a vivid example of some stupid, provincial ambitions. And sometimes you need to step not so wide and a little more modest.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: So you won't take part in this project? And everything that concerns the distribution of space in the future Eurasian Center for Contemporary Art, will it all pass you by?

Lev Shulman: I don't know. The whole story is still very confusing and mysterious. Because initially there were statements that “it will be such a huge building, and we will settle there everyone who needs to be settled, and the current Yekaterinburg Center for Contemporary Art, not the homeless, but Kolyada, who does not have a normal platform for his work,” and so Further.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: We are talking about Nikolai Kolyada, a famous Yekaterinburg playwright who still cannot find premises for his theatre.

Lev Vladimirovich, 10 years old School of modern dance at your Center. What is the main achievement? What is the main disappointment, besides the undeveloped structure?

Lev Shulman: Our most important achievement is our graduates.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: How many of them have there been in 10 years?

Lev Shulman: Well, I can't say, I never counted. But I don't think it's about quantity. Because, in any case, we produce piece goods. I can say that from the first generation of graduates of the school, someone now dances in dance companies of modern dance in Moscow. That is, three people are dancing in the theater with Alexander Pepelyaev.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: This is a famous Moscow troupe.

Lev Shulman: Yes. Someone dances in the "Provincial Dances", someone else somewhere else, someone studies in universities associated, if not with dance, then with art. The next generation of school graduates, today they form the basis of the dance company "Project Bureau "Tanztrest" is a professional dance company that we created a year ago at the Yekaterinburg Center for Contemporary Art. They also teach now at our School of Contemporary Dance. That is, people have taken place.

Suppose, one of our graduates, one of the dancers of "DanceTrest", who teaches at our school, Maria Kolegova, she won the First Prize at the International Dance Competition in Seoul in 2004. This is the largest international performing competition. She and our other graduate, who also dances at the Dance Trust and teaches at school, Anna Eremenko, they received various prizes, first places in competitions for young choreographers, that is, as directors. They are already actively conducting seminars. And the seminars that they lead... Literally a week ago, we finished a seminar where people from all over the country come together. And if we take into account the fact that they are both a little over 20 years old, then we can say that, yes, this is a serious result of our work, and I would say, a qualitative result.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: And literally today your “Project Bureau “Tanztrest” is going to Saransk to the festival “LISA”. Two years ago, Tanztrust won the First Prize there, if I'm not mistaken, as well as a special jury prize.

Lev Shulman: Yes. But not "Tanztrest", because "Tanztrest" did not exist then, it has existed for only a year. And here it is necessary to clarify, Anna Eremenko, whom I already mentioned, she received the First Prize in one of the nominations there, and Maria Kolegova received a special jury prize.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: Daria Zdravomyslova, Yekaterinburg correspondent of Radio Liberty, met with the project participants to find out how modern dance lives and develops through the eyes of the dance trust project participants.

Daria Zdravomyslova: “The Design Bureau “TanzTrest” will not perform in the competition program this year at the “LISA” festival. Despite this, Anna Eremenko, a member of the troupe, is no less worried. He says that acting as guests is an even greater responsibility.

Anna Eremenko: The guest should show an example. If you are a participant, then you are equal with everyone, and if you are a guest, then you must show what you are capable of. You represent yourself, and you get paid for it. That is, you have to prove yourself in order to be accepted.

Daria Zdravomyslova: Dancers of the "Dance Trust" unanimously assert that today's modern dance should also be a theater. Almost all members of the troupe graduate from the theater institute. Maria Kolegova believes that a real dancer cannot do without mechanical movements alone.

Maria Kolegova: It's not only dancing, dancing, continuous dancing, but it's also a lot of inner work, it's also a psychological charge or, conversely, a discharge. Very often you get tired not from physical movement, but from internal tension. And this is also the case of the actor. Not a dancer, but an actor.

Daria Zdravomyslova: DanceTrest members spend most of their time at the Center for Contemporary Art. Rehearsals run from 10 am to 10 pm. For Alena Gladkova, there has long been no line between dance and life.

Alena Gladkova: Until a certain age, it was still possible to separate that here I live, but here I came to classes, I study, I dance. Now it can't be divided. You must always think about dance, about the profession, even in life. I thought it must be very difficult. When to live then? And now you always think about images, some characters from performances, and even at night. And it can no longer be divided. You constantly think about it, and not because you need to do it, but because you can’t do without it.

Daria Zdravomyslova: Most of the troupe members have been dancing since early childhood. And we are sure that this will become their profession. Anna Eremenko says that it is difficult to earn big money with modern dance, but this is not the main thing for her.

Anna Eremenko: I would like to earn money with this. While parents help, you can completely surrender to the dance without the material side. But in the future, I hope that this will be an opportunity to earn, well, not big ... but I don’t aspire to any big money, but the main thing is to have enough to live on.

Daria Zdravomyslova: Design Bureau TanzTrest was founded a year ago. Its goal is to bring the art of modern dance to the mass audience. But as practice shows, show dance is still in demand more.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: Lev Vladimirovich, do you seriously want to make modern dance in a single city of Yekaterinburg more popular than, say, “belly dance”, which is now taught in every circle at the House of Culture?

Lev Shulman: Well, Svetlana, an offensive question.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: But demanding an honest answer.

Lev Shulman: It's a shame because you set it in the future tense. After all, a lot has been done in the past 15 years. And in fact, over the years, thanks, among other things, to our efforts and my personal efforts in Yekaterinburg ... You see, the most important thing is not that there are "Provincial Dances" in Yekaterinburg, there is "Tantstrust", there is someone else Well, this is not the most important thing, but thanks to our efforts, an amazing audience for modern dance has grown up in Yekaterinburg.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: Lev Vladimirovich, all the 15 years that the Center for Contemporary Art has existed, you have occupied the basement, which belongs to a flour mill in Yekaterinburg, and retain some kind of independence from the local authorities. But weren't you tempted to become a municipal Center for Contemporary Art in order to get all the budgetary benefits - a rehearsal space in some kind of recreation center, free rent of the hall, budget funding from the Department of Culture?

Lev Shulman: Just to clarify. First, we have occupied this premises for 12.5 years. Secondly, now this basement does not belong to the flour mill, but it has become the property of the City Property Management Committee.

And in answer to your question, I can say that I, perhaps, would have considered such a proposal if it had been received. Walking around and offering yourself, I think it's not very serious. Because everything we do and everything we have done is clearly visible, it is well covered in all media. And everything that we do, everything that we get, what results, what achievements, everyone knows about all this. And to go and convince someone else - I don't want to waste either time or energy on this. I'd rather spend this time and energy on further work.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: Lev Vladimirovich, does the city of Yekaterinburg derive any benefit for its image from what is happening with modern dance in the city?

Lev Shulman: Of course. You see, when we, the Yekaterinburg Center for Contemporary Art, began to quite actively bring various modern dance troupes from all over the world here, these people who came, they said after they returned home: “You understand, because you and we for so many people who surround us (suppose, in America or somewhere else), put Ekaterinburg on the map of the world. That is, we, sitting here, think that “we are so cool, we have such a big city, everyone knows us.” Yes, no one knows anything. Because nothing special happened in this city and is not happening. And modern dance, and those few companies of modern dance that work in Yekaterinburg and actively perform, well, first of all, the same “Provincial Dances”, are amazing newsmakers, these are amazing image makers for Yekaterinburg. And in this regard, the city just needs to pray for them.

Svetlana Tolmacheva: But what is really going on?

Lev Shulman: Nothing. "Provincial dances" began under the roof of the Uralmash Palace of Culture, in a small dance hall on the fourth floor, Lord, how many years have passed...

Lev Shulman: What are you talking about! From 1989 years old And in the same class. As everything was done on their own enthusiasm, it continues. That is recognition around the world, and nothing in the city. I don’t understand, is this or some kind of stupidity, just some kind of stupidity of those who make decisions in this city in the field of culture ... and not only culture, in fact, because this is a decision in the economic sphere as well Well, if you dig a little deeper.